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    Happy to hear a compromise has been reached!

  2. #12

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    It is pretty ironic that a locals casino insist on out of state id.

  3. #13

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    bella , The coupon states "menu items only" which they do inforce. No coupons accepted for "specials". vegass

  4. Default Re: Ellis Island casino not accepting ACG coupons

    I checked with the folks at Ellis Island and they confirmed that the "daily specials" are excluded.

    I later noticed that the front of the coupon clearly states that they are excluded, but I forgot to look at the coupon first before checking with them.

  5. #15

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    That's totally fine, I was just wondering. I'm sure that I'll use the coupon there anyway!!
    Thanks so much for looking into it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by quick-question View Post
    Ellis Island's rule on matchplay coupon use (in previous years) : "1-matchplay coupon per day".

    Being an LV-locals, I used to visit them about almost everyday (once a day) to use only 1-matchplay coupon per day (per their rule), but now that they don't want business from an LV-locals, I won't be visiting that often.

    And I don't just go there to just use a matchplay coupon & leave, I do visit their sportsbook & make bets (greater than $100 but less than $1000 bets) on sports (football & basketball games) if their lines look good. Their sportsbook employees know this, but I guess they don't want any business from an LV-locals (or others like me), so I won't be visiting them that often to make those sportsbets.

    So good luck to Ellis Island (a local casino) that now only wants to cater to "non-LV locals".
    The way you describe yourself, you used to visit EI with match play maybe 4 x week. That $40.00 weekly match play action translates to about $2000.00 "action" per year, for a profit to you in excess of $700.00 annually. This more than pays for your sports book "vig". As far as the casino is concerned, you cost them money annually, and therefor are probably considered "undesirable" with your current customer practices.

    Can you really "blame" EI for making changes to protect their assets?

    With this economy, we will be seeing tremendous changes in Casino Marketing, Comps, and Coupons in the future.

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    Default Re: Ellis Island casino not accepting ACG coupons

    Ellis Island has changed for the worse that's for sure. They have some new management that has been removing the perks one by one.

    Like a full sized Craps table $5 minimum. Raising the minimums on Black Jack and and surreptitiously changing the nickel Video Poker progressives to 10 coins max play.

    Prices are also up on many of the restaurant items.

    It's the little things that get annoying. Like grinding patrons on using ACG coupons, when they are legitimately trying to use them, especially if they are a new customer.

    I'll agree there was coupon abuse but it wasn't from the members of the ACG.

    This is one reason I frown on coupon trading, especially match plays. It really Pizzes off a casino when one abuser comes in with a bunch of match plays and plays them hit and run.

    Like I had said, match play coupons are designed to generate new business, not give away the profit of the establishment that was participating in the promotion.

    You know who you are!

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    Default Re: Ellis Island casino not accepting ACG coupons

    Due to abuse Ellis Island has had to modify it's coupon usage policy. Out of state ID and a player's club card are required to use all coupons, including ACG and LVA.

    Management reserves all rights to deny acceptance of any coupon. So, if you're a coupon trader and you go in there with a bunch of match plays they should, in my opinion, throw your butt out!

    A few bad apple coupon abusers ruin it for everyone else.

    To you coupon abusers, and you know who you are.....FOAD.

  9. Default Re: Ellis Island casino not accepting ACG coupons

    Well, the Hard Rock has now joined Ellis Island in requiring an out-of-state ID in order to use any of their coupons from the American Casino Guide.

    Evidently, they had problems with coupon abusers and they are trying to limit usage to non-Nevadans.

    Hopefully, that will resolve the problem for them.

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    Looks like the locals know the true value of match play coupons. I've seen on the coupon trading categories on other LV message boards how they trade the used books on e bay and craig's list, and then hit the casinos on coupon runs to play the match plays.

    You'd be surprised at what the old books go for, sometimes as low a three dollars.

    Perhaps a disclaimer might be in order. Limiting to out of state users does negate the possibility of usage by legitimate purchasers of the book who live in Nevada.

    Some of the older casinos can't facilitate tracking usage by player's card yet, or don't want to go to the trouble to do so. Seems like it shouldn't be that difficult with a tweak to the software, and requiring a visit to the promo/player's club to get the voucher.

    Station Casinos do that as well as some others. Only one coupon per year per player, tracked with the player's club card which requires an in or out of state ID to get.

    Problem solved.

    Then legitimate users would be able to continue to enjoy the benefit of the book.

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