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    Well, I don't think the dust has settled.
    At least it has not settled in my mind yet.
    However, here is what I think is happening. When I'm home from my road trips, I'll do some calling and try to nail down more details.

    Key to thinking about this change are these two variables: Bookings prior to March 1. Metalic color of Player's card.

    Any booking of any sort with any card made before March 1, cash or comped, is grandfathered into the NO resort fees, but that also means none of the resort fee amenities can be had. You can add a resort fee, but not just for one night. You have to add for your entire trip.

    Any booking with a Platinum card or above will not incur resort fees. I am certain of this for comped rooms. If paying cash, I'd call and double check. Before you get all psyched up to get to Platinum, however, just count what you are short paid on a video poker machine in CET versus one at the Four Queens (even without the $12.50 American Casino Guide point doubling coupon) Play a 9/6 double bonus video poker and every time you hit a full house or a flush, add $2.25 to your losses. It won't take long for you to see that these Platinum folks have been milked of the resort fees over and over again.

    And yes, comped rooms fall into those parameters. Gold Card members are just going to pay through the nose for amenities that the Platinum players get for free. Well, sort of free if you forget what flaying they had to endure to become Platinum.

    As I put in another post, signing up for the free Total Rewards credit card will give you a way to protect points beyond the six months and make you Platinum for a year.

    If you like Treasure Island, call and ask if there is a way to book and avoid the Resort Fee by booking directly with the casino. Rumor is that the Resort Fee can be sidestepped with certain booking deals.

    If you have a host at any CET property, call them. Traditionally hosts were able to waive resort fees as another benefit for a certain level of play. Be careful. Never play poor games thinking only of comps. You can't make that balance. Low level players should include comps in the overall EV of a game but not overplay. $20 of JOB at the Boars Head Bar in MSS in order to score two Black Chip Porter microbrews brings the EV of that game over the 100% level. Hours of play on player unfriendly machines to save resort fees does not.

    Note that as far as I have read, use of the pools are not listed as a resort fee amenity and so I'd assume they were still open to any guest. When I stayed at the Quad last year, I walked across to Caesar's and used their pool. It was very nice and totally welcomed.

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    Since the strip is now full of resort fees whereever you go, think about off strip. Even going just as far as the Gold Coast will bring the fees down and Terrible's, Super 8, Eastside Cannery, LVH all have no fees as does most of Downtown. It does not take much play at the D for example to get two for one rooms that in many cases mean staying for about $15 a night and no resort fee added to that. You have the American Casino Guide coupon for two nights at that rate as well.

    For low end Vegas visitors the resort fee can double the cost of the room while for high end players, it is just a small percentage of the total charge.

    If you are a frugal traveler, the casinos are always trying to find a way to sort you out of those they attract, so they keep changing the rules. This resort fee change is no exception. CET leans on the low end gambler to either put more at risk or go stay somewhere else. El Cortez leaned on low rollers by adding a hefty fee for more than 7 nights in a calendar month. Remember you tools of frugality:

    American Casino Guide coupons
    Checking the Vegas Values Report for you week of visit:
    Vegas Values
    Discussion here on angles and ideas for deals
    MyVegas freebies
    15/30 day RCT bus passes for transportation
    online coupons

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    I wrote a long reply but I was clocked out and lost it. Anyway, I am trending more downtown and off strip. The 4 queens has been good to me, responding with increasing offers as I increase my play. My comps at the Gold C. have been stagnant despite increase in play. Any advice? I did to speak to a host over the phone but they want to see me after my play the next trip. This is the first time i have spoke to a host at the GC. I guess we have to keep alert and working for the best deals.

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    • #3
      Re: CET Resort Fees

      Originally posted by keno60 View Post
      I wrote a long reply but I was clocked out and lost it. Anyway, I am trending more downtown and off strip. The 4 queens has been good to me, responding with increasing offers as I increase my play. My comps at the Gold C. have been stagnant despite increase in play. Any advice? I did to speak to a host over the phone but they want to see me after my play the next trip. This is the first time i have spoke to a host at the GC. I guess we have to keep alert and working for the best deals.
      Same problem here, the more I went to gold coast the worse my comps were. they also downgraded thier video poker, probably not a coincidence. Boyd is tightening up all over. I ended up playing more V.P. across the street at palms, I would rather speak with my feet than to a host who most likely will not be helpfull in any way.

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      • #4
        Re: CET Resort Fees

        Generally hosts are not much interested in VP players. However, I always get a straight answer at the Four Queens from whomever happens to talk to me in person or on the phone. Wintering in Florida my mailings are all fouled up and the hosts just look me up and tell me what the mailings offered.

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        • #5
          Re: CET Resort Fees

          Sam's Town has been pretty good for me.

          They still have full-pay deuces there and they send me occasional free slot and video poker tournament invitations that include a free two-night stay on weekends.

          On my last visit I stayed an extra day. I called a slot host and asked if he could comp it for me. It was taken off my bill when I checked out.

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          • #6
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            I never played enough for a host, but I do like the place and Deuces.
            I like the free Thursday Toast of the town variety show.
            I like the 200 point ACG gets us a free buffet. Some days the buffet is great. Other days it is just so-so.
            I like the fast (16 minute) access from downtown on the HDX bus
            I like the 10am daily tournament, limit for an hour, then no limit. I won first place once. always it is fun. And that is a good bit of poker for just a little money. I did not much like the 3-6 cash game. Not very soft. Mostly locals who all knew one another and were not as friendly as the tournament people.

            I like the Deuces by the Doughnuts and one of those machines can be switched to 10/7 DB for variety.
            I get just a few free nights scattered in a month, but I may stay next trip if they hit the right days.

            It does have a small resort fee, although the time I stayed and booked thru B Connected I was not charged that fee.

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            • #7
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              Like you advised Dewey. Contact the hotel. I read a article yesterday about some of the strip hotels giving options on the resort fee, even for low rollers. I can't remember which ones but there were some upper level ones mentioned.

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              • #8
                Re: CET Resort Fees

                If you find that article again, share the link.

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                • #9
                  Re: CET Resort Fees

                  Originally posted by dewey089 View Post
                  If you find that article again, share the link.
                  It was in Vegas Chatter, you can find it under resort fees. The places were the Venetian and Palazzo.

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                  • #10
                    Re: CET Resort Fees

                    Originally posted by dewey089 View Post
                    Well, I don't think the dust has settled.
                    At least it has not settled in my mind yet.
                    However, here is what I think is happening. When I'm home from my road trips, I'll do some calling and try to nail down more details.

                    Key to thinking about this change are these two variables: Bookings prior to March 1. Metalic color of Player's card.

                    Any booking of any sort with any card made before March 1, cash or comped, is grandfathered into the NO resort fees, but that also means none of the resort fee amenities can be had. You can add a resort fee, but not just for one night. You have to add for your entire trip.

                    Any booking with a Platinum card or above will not incur resort fees. I am certain of this for comped rooms. If paying cash, I'd call and double check. Before you get all psyched up to get to Platinum, however, just count what you are short paid on a video poker machine in CET versus one at the Four Queens (even without the $12.50 American Casino Guide point doubling coupon) Play a 9/6 double bonus video poker and every time you hit a full house or a flush, add $2.25 to your losses. It won't take long for you to see that these Platinum folks have been milked of the resort fees over and over again.

                    And yes, comped rooms fall into those parameters. Gold Card members are just going to pay through the nose for amenities that the Platinum players get for free. Well, sort of free if you forget what flaying they had to endure to become Platinum.

                    As I put in another post, signing up for the free Total Rewards credit card will give you a way to protect points beyond the six months and make you Platinum for a year.

                    If you like Treasure Island, call and ask if there is a way to book and avoid the Resort Fee by booking directly with the casino. Rumor is that the Resort Fee can be sidestepped with certain booking deals.

                    If you have a host at any CET property, call them. Traditionally hosts were able to waive resort fees as another benefit for a certain level of play. Be careful. Never play poor games thinking only of comps. You can't make that balance. Low level players should include comps in the overall EV of a game but not overplay. $20 of JOB at the Boars Head Bar in MSS in order to score two Black Chip Porter microbrews brings the EV of that game over the 100% level. Hours of play on player unfriendly machines to save resort fees does not.

                    Note that as far as I have read, use of the pools are not listed as a resort fee amenity and so I'd assume they were still open to any guest. When I stayed at the Quad last year, I walked across to Caesar's and used their pool. It was very nice and totally welcomed.

                    ***********************************

                    Since the strip is now full of resort fees whereever you go, think about off strip. Even going just as far as the Gold Coast will bring the fees down and Terrible's, Super 8, Eastside Cannery, LVH all have no fees as does most of Downtown. It does not take much play at the D for example to get two for one rooms that in many cases mean staying for about $15 a night and no resort fee added to that. You have the American Casino Guide coupon for two nights at that rate as well.

                    For low end Vegas visitors the resort fee can double the cost of the room while for high end players, it is just a small percentage of the total charge.

                    If you are a frugal traveler, the casinos are always trying to find a way to sort you out of those they attract, so they keep changing the rules. This resort fee change is no exception. CET leans on the low end gambler to either put more at risk or go stay somewhere else. El Cortez leaned on low rollers by adding a hefty fee for more than 7 nights in a calendar month. Remember you tools of frugality:

                    American Casino Guide coupons
                    Checking the Vegas Values Report for you week of visit:
                    Vegas Values
                    Discussion here on angles and ideas for deals
                    MyVegas freebies
                    15/30 day RCT bus passes for transportation
                    online coupons
                    Thanks Dewey for the detail and time you put into this post it should gave me some ideas and info.

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